Further on ENCODE (and SETI, and Biologos etc.)
I've been meaning to gin up some further contemplations on the ENCODE results, as a followup to my previous article, and in reply to my friend the thoughtful and sober atheistic commenter "Blue Devil Knight" who commented on my article starting here in the comments. But I've been distracted by other projects.
BDK asks,
"What is it specifically that the naturalists are having so much trouble handling?"
BDK asks,
"What is it specifically that the naturalists are having so much trouble handling?"
If you're referring
to my opening paragraph, I meant that "proponents of completely
non-intentional biological development" were "scrambling defensively
in various ways" in relation to "ID and
creationist proponents hopping up and down"--which combined with how I
closed that sentence ("...and frankly, at first I didn't see what the big
deal was."), plus my next large paragraph, means I didn't understand why
the ID and creationist proponents were hopping up and down. But such
activity would naturally lead to scrambles from the opposition, even if the
scramblers were the ones in the right. After all, people on my side of the
aisle (myself included {g}) tend to scramble to meet even goofy non-theistic
arguments when they're put forward in a culturally attention-getting way.
(I was specific
about "proponents of completely non-intentional biological
development" because not all such people are atheists and/or philosophical
naturalists. Biologos.org, for example, is a site run by biologists and other
scientists who hold to God having set up a system where random copy-errors or
other undirected mutations build up effective biological complexity, up to and including
inter-and-intracellular biological machinery, which natural selection processes
don't kill off or otherwise destroy as quickly as other similarly generated
variants. Consequently, they're currently defending the notion of
non-functional DNA still predominating in cells with the reasonable observation
that chemical interactions along the chain do not mean functional proteins and
other enzymes are being generated, and that prior lines of evidence relating to
non-functional DNA have not suddenly disappeared.)
So I didn't mean
"scramble" there against naturalists. And despite the arguments in
the rest of my article, I did qualify the results rather strongly, too, such as
by my reminder at the end that the situation (for all we know) may flip around
sooner or later. My title itself poked some self-critical
fun at my propensity, and theist observers of biology more generally,
to run with the new data!--or do you think if I was 100% gung-ho behind the
results I would have questioned in my title whether we ought to start a
"marvelous orgy" now? {wry g}
Still, there's
scrambling and there's scrambling. The ENCODE researchers themselves, despite
knowing that recent (but only relatively recent) research has been steadily
undermining the concept of "junk DNA", routinely use words like
"surprising" or "unprecedented" and "a lot more than
expected" when reporting their findings. In an article for
Science a few weeks ago, Elizabeth Pennisi quoted John
Stamatoyannopoulos (one of the ENCODE researchers at the University of
Washington, and definitely a proponent of neo-Darwinian gradualism based on
other public comments) as saying "I don't think anyone would have
anticipated even close to the amount of sequence that ENCODE has uncovered that
looks like it has functional importance."
If intelligent
design is true, the results shouldn't be that surprising at all. (ID proponents
have been predicting such results since the 90s.) Random copy error noise from
mutation as a basis for building up genetic structure would be more likely to
result in significantly large amounts (even supermajority large amounts) of
random copy error noise as the genetic structure. ID and
non-ID theories can both work with meaningful and unmeaningful genetic
sections, as I noted in the article; but ID can work a lot more with a little
meaningful information in a primary background of meaningless noise, than
non-ID theories can work with a primary background of meaningful information
even when some gibberish is included here and there.
(The problem with
non-intentionally directed natural selection processes weeding out the
gibberish is not just that most "selection" processes would naturally
tend to accidentally weed out the useful accidental copy-errors, too--just not
as quickly on larger timescales--but that helpful
functionality of a copy-error presupposes a non-gibberish situation already in
place for the mutations to be helpful in. Natural selection builds up
nothing; it's a purely negative process.)
If someone found
what looked like operational code in stellar background noise--code for
generating prime numbers or which was otherwise applicable to specified
operation--that would count strongly toward intentional design of that portion
of the radio sequence. SETI researchers don't have to prove that the vast
majority of stellar radio signals are operational code in order to detect
extra-terrestrial intelligence. But if they proved that more than half (and
much much more than half!) of cosmic radio background signals were operational
code, that result would certainly be "surprising" and
"unprecedented" and "a lot more than expected" for
everyone--except for people who think we're surrounded by
alien societies in every direction routinely filling the spaces between the
world with beamed information (just like Earth does going out).
For this reason I
think we're going to see a push for checking whether the functionality is
virus-like self-replication, i.e. no real function for the cell or the
multi-cellular body where appropriate (since all cells of a body have the same
DNA but not all cells have the same functions). My guess that the ENCODE
results eliminate that option, as such mere self-replication functionality
would only apply during cell division, and the tests for functionality involved
protein generations other than cell division. But aside from there being a
legitimately scientific interest in ascertaining what the functionality means
(since the ENCODE tests didn't and couldn't yet test for verification on what
the transcriptions and histone modifications were actually accomplishing),
there's going to be an ideological push, too--and to be fair, ideological
pushes on all sides of the aisle.
That being said, if
the ENCODE test designers had enough sense to eliminate cell division
transcriptions, then since the chemical reactions involved in unwinding,
transcribing, and rewinding portions of DNA are far from incidentally
accidental (it isn't like random chemicals meandering along bump into the outside
of a DNA strand until enough happen to cohere together to form a protein after
which they randomly float off again), the freakishly detailed
"upstream" process functions would be strong presumptive evidence in
favor of downstream functionality. Even on non-ID cell development theories,
the cell would have to be already set up to survive and provide sufficient
functionality despite wasting so much energy and material, which in itself
would be more than a little weird.
Biologos, for
example, published an article here
about how the ENCODE results would identify the Mendel's classic pea alleles of
"dominant" purple gene and "recessive" gene as equally
functional. But the "recessive" white gene is
sufficiently functional for purposes of an ID interpretation of the ENCODE
results: it has a real functional difference, due to a difference in the DNA
sequence which leads to a premature breakdown of the resultant protein coding for
color, leading to a whiter instead of purple flower. But the upstream
biochemical processes leading to a generation of mitachondrial RNA for a white
pea flower, and that RNA has the tags necessary to leave the area and go into
the protein sequencing machine, and the sequencing machine can synthesize a
preliminary protein chain out of it that then goes into the folding machine,
which folds a protein out of it, and that protein has enough functionality to
get through the other machines in the cell to serve a purpose somewhere else,
most of them being the same purposes served by a purple color protein. The
current (and presumably correct) interpretation of the difference between the
white and the purple coding protein, as Dr. Venema (author of the article)
mentions, is that there has been a marginally
harmful mutation, presumably from copy-error, that
resulted in a bit of the information in the coding being gibberished.
Now that I read over
the article again, Dr. Venema actually indicates that the mutation renders the
protein "too short to work as an enzyme" and too instable so that the
mRNA "degrades more readily, resulting in a lower steady-state amount of
the mRNA in the cell". But whether the mRNA codes for a
nearly-as-functional protein or for one that is so broken it does nothing, the
salient point is that the protein is
broken.
That still fits the
paradigm-changing shift being lauded by ID proponents. The background
expectation now changes to a formulation, the "transcript", that
presupposes some kind of useful information. As I put it in my previous
article: if the information turns out not to be useful, then either we aren't
looking at it correctly yet or we should regard the sequence as being broken.
Not originally random noise accidentally generated to begin with.
Broken information (whether broken accidentally or not).
Dr. Venema warns
that "[t]hese limitations should stand as a caution to any group that
wishes to adopt the ENCODE definition as the only viable definition of biological
function", but ID proponents obviously go very far identifying
multi-valent levels of functionality. He suspects that "many of those
opposed to evolution" (by which he means common "Young Earth
Creationist, Old Earth Creationist, and Intelligent Design") would bristle
at the suggestion that the white color allele was equally functional to the
purple allele since the white allele (being the recessive gene which doesn't
express, or doesn't express as much, when a dominant gene for purple is also
present) "represents a clear loss of function in keeping with [those
groups'] definitions of loss-of-function alleles, and the propensity of these
groups to insist that such mutations destroy functional information." But
Dr. Venema's own chosen example involves a mutation destroying loss of original
function by mutation, which fits perfectly with such groups' expectations that
the utterly complex and multi-valent functioning of microbiological processes
could not have been feasibly built up by random mutations. In this case, it is
Dr. Venema who "has not yet had time to carefully think through the
implications" of embracing the ENCODE results.
Anyway, it isn't
that we simply don't know what most of the chemical behavior does after
generation; we know a lot (and an increasingly larger amount) of what the
chemical behavior has to do to generate those transcripts;
and that behavior is certainly not functionally insignificant. We've also
previously learned that some of the functionality of what appeared to be
non-coding portions of the genome isn't biochemical, but involves structural or
other functionality, some of which is absolutely essential to cell survival and
operation. In that sense ENCODE uses too narrow a definition
of function! But junk DNA proponents are claiming the definition is too broad.
At the very least,
if the ENCODE results hold, then we're going to see a brief but intense fight
between two different classes of non-ID proponents: those who have been
pointing to junk DNA (or the equivalent thereof) as strong evidence for a
history of merely random mutations (which of course it would be, although that
wouldn't eliminate design in other ways), thus as strong evidence in favor of a
totally non-ID development process; and those who have been stressing the
natural selection side of neo-Darwinian gradualism and so saying on that ground
that we ought to expect majority or even supermajority levels of functionality
because natural selection processes would have weeded out the non-efficient portions
of DNA. (But as noted above there are significant problems with this, which the
scientists who have been leaning hard on neutralistic junk DNA are aware of.)
Richard Dawkins has
already flipflopped completely on this; since 1976 in The Selfish Gene,
up to three years ago in 2009's The Greatest Show On Earth,
he couldn't hammer junk DNA hard enough as evidence against any kind of
intelligent design and in favor of being exactly what neo-Dargrad theory would
expect. Last month he said in a public debate with rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks
that superfunctional DNA is exactly what a Darwinist would hope for and expect.
Granted, Mr. D is
more than a bit of a straw man (which is why he provides a richness of
embarrassments for us to mine and feel good about ;) ). But he's also a good
barometer of how this will be popularly played out. A majority and even a
supermajority of junk DNA is what neo-Darwinistic gradualism would expect and
what a neo-Dargrad proponent would hope to find; but a majority and even a
supermajority of functional DNA is also what neo-Darwinistic gradualism would
expect and what a neo-Dargrad proponent would hope to find. The only problem is
that each set of expectations and hopes are based on very conflicting reasons
rooted strongly in neo-Darwinian gradualism as a theory.
It's one thing to say that the theory is genuinely flexible enough that wildly different evidential states can fit either way; it's another thing to say that the theory predicts two wildly different evidential states over against itself for conflicting reasons. Either way, though, that means the different evidential states cannot be used as evidence for the superiority of the theory against other theories (although an evidential state in itself could still be used as evidence against another theory).
It's one thing to say that the theory is genuinely flexible enough that wildly different evidential states can fit either way; it's another thing to say that the theory predicts two wildly different evidential states over against itself for conflicting reasons. Either way, though, that means the different evidential states cannot be used as evidence for the superiority of the theory against other theories (although an evidential state in itself could still be used as evidence against another theory).
(Dr. Venema has
a
second part to his recent essay on interpreting the ENCODE results, over at
Biologos.org, which also inadvertently illustrates what I was talking
about the in the original article, about what the implications for ENCODE are
in regard to ID theories; but I'll leave that as an exercise for the readers
until/unless I get around to commenting on it further.)
JRP
Comments
But as I stated, I have always found the way Dawkins and others pounced on junk DNA as revealing their confirmation bias as much as facts about biology.
I guess I'm just pretty underwhelmed here, and see this as a fairly typical ID overreaction to your garden-variety naturalistic biology marching along just fine.
I highly recommend that post to anyone who is interested in this debate.
On your previous commments at last post...
You are focusing a lot on 'random copy errors' but point mutations are just one of many mechanisms of producing genetic variation. Recombination, transposable elements (jumping genes), gene duplication, are important too. Careful you don't want to end up sounding like Gish talking about tornadoes making 747s.
If you just focus on the production of variation, and ignore the question of how these variants change in prevalence over time (i.e., evolution!), then I can see how you might be tempted to take talk of 'biology producing complexity' as implying teleological pixie dust, rather than shorthand for a naturalistic story.
Note also that ENCODE looked only at humans, so extrapolating to all of biology is weird, and especially extrapolating backwards in time to the first living things (and prebiotic ancestors) would be even less justified.