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Christianity is a personal Relationship with Jesus: part 2

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I am taking a couple of weeks off for action, I need to know people are reading this blog please let me me hear from you. If you want this blog to continue.





Let's remember in part 1 established that the christian walk is both an individual relationship with God 1x1 and membership in a body of Christ. This  is not a contradiction   because it is a body, a collective made up of individuals who have personal relationships with God. The idea that we only have a relationship with the church can   be a big excuse not to do what we know is right but to use membership in the group to shield us from personal responsibility. Of course it can also be used by the leader of the group to take control of the lives of individuals and abuse power.

I am specifically addressing the article by  Chad Bird. [1]I do not know anything about brother Bird but I do know that he uses a set of flimsy arguments to defend his position. Let's examine them. I am not accusing him   or his group of anything but h…

Christianity is about a Personal Relationship, Chad Bird

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Some Dude name Chad Bird (April 2017) laid out a blog piece promoting the mindless sheep Christianity theory of being a Christian. Chad tells us:


Here’s the thing:Christianity is not about a personal relationship with Jesus. The phrase is never found in the Bible. And the whole biblical witness runs contrary to it.Our life with Christ is communal, not personal or private or individual. When the Scriptures speak of believers, they are part of a community, a fellowship of other believers.[1]
Each one of those claims is in direct contradiction to the teachings of Christ. Break them down:
*Christianity is not about a personal relationship with Jesus.The phrase is never found in the Bible.

Yes it is! (1) it's written into the very fabric of salvation. It's spelled out in the covenant:


Jeremiah 31:31-34New International Version (NIV)31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israeland with the people of Judah.32 It will not be like the…

My Religious Experience God argumemt

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On Metacrock's blog I put up a post for two atheists I had challenged on You Tube,I am still awaiting their arrival. Old Skepie could not resist the urge to argue with me just one more time. He feels it's time for me to give him another debate lesson. I want the space on my blog clear for those I challenged so I'm moving the debate with Skep here.

I will summaries the two arguments.

Argument: Tier 1: co determinate
(1) The affects and effects of mystical experience are real in that they are measurably transformative in a positive sense.
(2)These affects cannot be reduced to naturalistic cause and affect, bogus mental states or epiphenomena.
(3)Since the affects of Mystical consciousness are independent of other explanations and the affects are real we should assume that they are genuine experiences of something transcendent of our own minds.
(4)Since mystical experience is usually experience of something, the Holy, the sacred, or some sort of greater transcendent reality we sh…

The Salvation of The Modern Individual

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There is a trend in evangelical thinking to a turn from the highly individualistic self of the enlightenment, where salvation is a matter of the individual finding herself in relationship with God alone, to communal sort of thinking where one is part of the tribe as in identity politics. "This culture [of the enlightenment individuality] has also deeply affected the Church of the West. All of our songs are wrapped in the language of me, rather than us. Our taking of the Eucharistic table of the Lord (communion) is highlighted by each one making sure they have no unaccounted for personal sins before taking..."[1] Of each one making sure he or she has no uncounted sins is in the New Testament.  I see the potential in this movement for political control. Ironically at the same time secular scholarship is coming to see Christianity as the basis of enlightenment individualism,

An example of the trend in the church is found in the book Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes by Rand…