A few days ago on You Tube, I found an interesting comment in Brain Outy’s discussion page (here is a link to her main page):
Brain Outy's You Tube Page
This lady also has a website:
Brainout's Lord Pages
First, I will start with some background about her: She goes (or used to go) to the Berachah Church in Houston. R.B. Thieme II used to be the pastor there until he passed away several years ago. According to some things I have heard and read about this guy and this church, I am glad I never went there:
Internet Monk: Whatever Happened to R.B. Thieme II
This pastor believed in some un-biblical things, like Super Grace, Ultra Super Grace, and the Privacy of the Priesthood to name a few.
As for this Brain Outy lady, I have read through her site, and I think that she said something about how the Devil can eventually beat God (or something). If she believes that, then she is a little messed-up.
Now, on to the comment. It had to do with a video that she did about a You Tuber named Zoroaster and his video:
Zoroaster's Fake Scholarship
She refutes a claim by this guy that the Bible is based on Josephus’ account.
In Brain Outy’s discussion section, someone named danieljliversLXXXIX had this to say at the end of a rant against her (based on her critique of Zoroaster's video):
Of course, we can simply write this off, along with the TF, and just say that Josephus never heard of Christ or Christians and call it a day. Either way is fine by me.Did I read this right? Is he totally writing off the Testimonium Flavium as an extra-biblical source that talks about Jesus?
If that’s his intent, then his thinking doesn’t jive with many scholars. According to this entry on DOXA, there is a list of over 30 scholars that accept at least a core passage:
Also, on top of that, this link confirms the authenticity of the James-Jesus passage:
The leading Josephus scholars, Prof. Louis Feldman (Yeshiva University) and Steve Mason (York University) state:I also went to Tektonics to find more info on the TF, and I found this link:
“That indeed, Josephus did say something about Jesus is indicated, above all, by the passage - the authenticity of which has been almost universally acknowledge - about James, who is termed (A, XX, 200) the brother of “the aforementioned Christ” (Feldman, Louis H, Introduction in Feldman, Louis H. and Hata, Gohey “Josephus, Judaism, and Christianity”, Page 56)
“Nevertheless, since most of those who know the evidence that he said something about Jesus, one is probably entitled to cite him as independent evidence that Jesus actually lived, if such evidence were needed. But that much is already given in Josephus’ reference to James (Ant. 20.200), and most historians agree that Jesus’ existence is the only adequate explanation of the many traditions among the NT writings (Steve Mason, Josephus and the New Testament, page 174ff)”
“The authenticity of the James passage “has been almost universally acknowledged” by Josephan scholars. So, J.L. Hinman is right to appeal to Ant. 200 as independent confirmation of the historicity of Jesus.
Here are a few quotes from this link:
The early church, Schreckenburg writes, saw Josephus as kind of a “fifth gospel” and a “little Bible” [Feld. JosJes, 317] because his works “appeared to Christian theologians to be a commentary or a historic appendix to the New Testament (ibid., 319).”QuoteHolding goes on to answer various objections as to why the passage wouldn’t be at least partially authentic, and he ends this writing with a discussion on what we have learned about Christianity and/or Jesus from this writer.
“Quote Elsewhere, Meier [Meie.MarJ2, 59] notes that the “total interpolation” position has it’s respectable defenders, but it’s not a majority view. Among those he cites are Conzelmann, who sees the passage as totally an expression of Christian kerygma (though without substantiation), and Hermann, who regards the Testimonium, the short passage, AND the passage in Josephus about John the Baptist as Christian interpolations.
Those two links give sufficient info to show that the TF and the James passage are sufficient sources of extra-biblical info about Jesus Christ.