In my personal You Tube inbox, a user by the name of TheDreamVista (a regular commenter on TektonTV) said that there was a response (on this atheist website aptly named The Church of Truth) to the article I left (from Metacrock’s DOXA) about gospel authorship. First, here is that link:
At the bottom of this page, there are comments. A person with the username Atheos wrote a long, rambling diatribe about Joe's article. One mistake he made stands out:
After the apostles, evangelists, and first few generations of Christians had died, there was a dialectic shift of seismic proportions as surviving Christians realized that the second coming of Jesus was not going to happen ‘suddenly’ during their lifetimes as they were taught to believe.
I have seen atheists do similar things before. Next, he challenges Joe’s belief about the gospels being written by eye-witnesses:
However, I have to challenge the basic assumption of the Doxa site that the gospels were written by a community of eye witnesses. How did a community in Antioch, Rome, Alexandria, Ephesus say, first learn about Jesus of Nazareth from a Jewish Jesus cult in Galilee? Evangelists preaching, like Paul or Apollos say? So the Antiochenes, Romans, Alexandrians, Ephesians and other communities heard the stories about Jesus from the evangelists, and retold them to others. Sometimes, not always, parts of the story would be changed to suit the occasion or emphasize a point. So were any of the eye witnesses from Jerusalem present to oversee each person telling the story of Jesus? No! They were in Jerusalem. So who of the eye witnesses was overseeing the oral tradition of transmission of the gospel story to ensure that the facts were correct in Antioch, Rome, Alexandria, Ephesus, Macedonia, etc? No one was.He does make an interesting point, but he makes an absolute statement at the end that he really can’t make because he doesn’t have any evidence for it.
I also wanted to share what Glenn Miller of the Christian Think Tank had to say about this. Here is one of his articles that deal with apostolic authorship. It is a response to James Still, past president of the Internet Infidels (a very prestigious honor :)
At the top, Mr. President assumed that Miller believes that the apostles were the gospel authors, but Glenn doesn’t hold to that position.
Staying with the Christian Think Tank, another gospel controversy he dealt with had to do with the miracles of Jesus being invented by the disciples:
In part of the article, Glenn wrote about Joseph Campbell (a guy that Metacrock has wrote about before). He wrote the book called The Hero With a Thousand Faces:
Campbell’s heroes (more mythic than epic, though) were so in the second half of their lives, and his suggested patterns (called ‘overgeneralized’ by Dean Miller in [WR:TEH]) are not confirmed by the data, either:
“Like Rank’s theory, Campbell’s can be faulted on various grounds. As with Rank’s theory, one might gran the pattern by deny the meaning. Or one might question the pattern itself. Since it obviously applies only to myths about heroes in the second half of life, it excludes all of Rank’s hero myths, or at least all of Rank’s portions of them. And, as noted, it partly excludes female heroes. Whether the pattern even fits Campbell’s own examples it is not easy to tell, for Campbell, unlike either Rank or Raglan, provides no set of hero myths to accompany the whole of his pattern"