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A Rational Look at Christianity; Basing Reason in Truth

In my latest article on Atheist Watch I show that the same organization that started the Jesus Project also started and runs Skeptical Inquirer magazine. I think this is a good indictment of the biases of that project.

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I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but this project was started around 2007, but ran into some problems. There were several more well known scholars at the "Scripture and Skepticism" conference such as Crossan, DeConnick etc. who are closer to the mainstream, but certainly on the liberal side. CSER simply took the names of many people at the conference and listed them as fellows, and only notified them by e-mail asking if they would like their names removed. Somehow Victor J Stenger was also listed as a fellow, still haven't figured that one out. Basically, they were touting the names of about 50 people as fellows.

In the summer of 2007, many of these Scholars got wind of the fact that they were listed as fellows for the Jesus Project. They subsequently asked to be withdrawn after complaining about not being asked more formally. Unfortunately for the project, these people happened to be the bigger, more mainstream names like Crossan. Now all that's left, with a few token exceptions, are mythers and other fringe scholars. The results of the project will be predictable and totally detached from the mainstream.

In other words, CSER epic fail.

That's good to know. Crosson has actually refused to join. But he has other ties to skeptical inquierer. I was very disappointed to find that out.

There was also a scandal involving Jim West when Robinson agreed to be the consultant to the project, then West or someone on his blog contended that Robinson didn't know anything about it. Joseph Hoffman the chairman of the Jesus Project denied that he didn't know about it. I'm not sure how that all turned out.

It pays to read the footnotes, back pages and about pages on all groups sites.

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http://atheistwatch.blogspot.com/2009/02/cracking-jesus-myth-phony-scholarship.html

It's clear what they are advocating is the destruction of Christianity. This means the secular web and all the major force of internet atheists are just their little army of brown shirts running around persecuting Christians.

Its' the crystal night.



Yes, because questioning the historicity of the Jesus story and asking that government not give tax dollars to sectarian groups is EXACTLY like the Nazis burning down Jewish property in 1938...

And you wonder why people don't take you seriously?

Yes, because questioning the historicity of the Jesus story and asking that government not give tax dollars to sectarian groups is EXACTLY like the Nazis burning down Jewish property in 1938...


research Nazi propaganda. they argued the very same way atheists do. "We are a poor little discriminated against and hatred group that he evil mean old powerful Jews are picking on an we have to take extreme measures against them to survive.

extreme? well I think a petition to make it illegal to teach your child your religion, which Dawkins did sign, is extreme. There are a few other exmple.

it's early yet. But the hate group is getting there. They are in stage 4 (the hate group taunts the target). Eventually they will move to stage 5.

"research Nazi propaganda. they argued the very same way atheists do. "We are a poor little discriminated against and hatred group that he evil mean old powerful Jews are picking on an we have to take extreme measures against them to survive."

This sounds more like what you're doing here; trying to make sound like a small, despised largely powerless minority somehow represents an existential threat to the prevailing order.

Dawkins foolishly signing a stupid petition (which he later recanted, by the way) is hardly an offense on the order of mobs in the street smashing windows. And in case you haven;t figured it out yet, Dawkins is NOT the atheist Pope; he doesn't speak for all atheists everywhere.

I understand that some atheists have been rather cruel to you in the past, but this constant smear tactic of yours in which you compare us to Nazis is inexcusable.

Please stop it.

Dawkins foolishly signing a stupid petition (which he later recanted, by the way) is hardly an offense on the order of mobs in the street smashing windows. And in case you haven;t figured it out yet, Dawkins is NOT the atheist Pope; he doesn't speak for all atheists everywhere.


you woldn't know he's not the pope talking to his groupies. The work of the Jesus project is a put up job, it's a dog and pony show for the Jesus myth concept. That's their attempt to save it because its' been smashed so many times and and so little support.

I understand that some atheists have been rather cruel to you in the past, but this constant smear tactic of yours in which you compare us to Nazis is inexcusable.

they will shoot themselves in the foot even without my help. a movement that exists for the purposing of venting hatred upon a group despised by tiny fringe element hasn't a prayer, especially when eliminating prayer is one of their goals.

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