tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post8838204863293067866..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: Story of Empty Tomb Dated to Mid First Century (part 1) BKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-29703746826519012222017-04-05T07:55:43.411-07:002017-04-05T07:55:43.411-07:00Px is a friend, he's been posting on my messag...Px is a friend, he's been posting on my message board for a year or more. He's very bright although kind of focused on his specialty which is chemistry. He's Brit which means his atheism has an edge but it's cultural. He's a nice guy if you gt to knw him.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-41450402148201193812017-04-05T07:39:20.386-07:002017-04-05T07:39:20.386-07:00Acknowledging a good point by an author does not m...Acknowledging a good point by an author does not mean that you agree with everything they believe. I am definitely an Arminianist, but there are many Calvinist authors I hold in extremely high regard. If you reject everything someone says because they disagree with you in other areas--even big areas--you may very well be depriving yourself of some profound knowledge.Ben Plunketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08884400080857323811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-17437798333809856402017-04-05T07:04:37.884-07:002017-04-05T07:04:37.884-07:00Pretty useless to argue with Pixiebreath, all he&#...Pretty useless to argue with Pixiebreath, all he';ll do is make up some new literary source and stick it on the evolutionry ladder any time he gets caught with his pants down.J. P Holdinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09917892597771877097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-71253899863586067322017-04-04T05:17:00.783-07:002017-04-04T05:17:00.783-07:00here is my page aut Koester;s take on the redactio...here is my page aut Koester;s take on the redaction porocess in realtion to thye Pre Mark passion anarrative.the stufff above<br /><br /><a href="http://religiousapriorijesus-bible.blogspot.com/2010/05/gospel-behind-gospel-part-2.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Here</b></a>Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-48235926676402872432017-04-04T05:04:38.686-07:002017-04-04T05:04:38.686-07:00Anonymous Anonymous said...
JH: No PX I don't ...Anonymous Anonymous said...<br />JH: No PX I don't think you understand how historical critical method works.I don't quote scholars for the value of their authority in matters not related to their field. I don't quote Koester and go "see he's smart so whatever he says is true." They have an expertise in a field. There are no experts on God existing, I have to conclude Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-85215004538377519962017-04-04T03:49:14.174-07:002017-04-04T03:49:14.174-07:00JH: No PX I don't think you understand how his...JH: <i>No PX I don't think you understand how historical critical method works.I don't quote scholars for the value of their authority in matters not related to their field. I don't quote Koester and go "see he's smart so whatever he says is true." They have an expertise in a field. There are no experts on God existing, I have to conclude that for myself based upon my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-32913340398262805582017-04-04T02:34:42.162-07:002017-04-04T02:34:42.162-07:00Here is what Koester is talking about Px. this is ...Here is what Koester is talking about Px. this is exactly what;s what he is discussing what means in that sentence. He quotes for passages two from Mark and from Egerton that are versions of the same passages.<br /><br />Comparison of readings Egerton 2 and Mark<br /><br />Mark 1:40: And the leper came to him and beseeching him said '[master?] if you will you can make me clean. And he Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-4107412963051839112017-04-04T02:22:24.518-07:002017-04-04T02:22:24.518-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-69711911166974551692017-04-04T02:07:35.588-07:002017-04-04T02:07:35.588-07:00Anonymous said...
Ah, right. If you separate their...Anonymous said...<br />Ah, right. If you separate their opinions in to academic and private, then you can say some of what they claim is fact, and the other half, the stuff that does not support your faith, can be swept under the carpet.<br /><br /><br /><b>No PX I don't think you understand how historical critical method works.I don't quote scholars for the value of their authority in Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-62852559353648557162017-04-03T23:49:54.201-07:002017-04-03T23:49:54.201-07:00Ah, right. If you separate their opinions in to a...Ah, right. If you separate their opinions in to academic and private, then you can say some of what they claim is <i>fact</i>, and the other half, the stuff that does not support your faith, can be swept under the carpet.<br /><br />Do you think Koester and Crossan reached their conclusion about the Empty Tomb being made up any differently to how they concluded it was in the passion narrative soAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-43348027011958722552017-04-03T10:43:55.310-07:002017-04-03T10:43:55.310-07:00Of Crossan
"He believes that Jesus was only ...Of Crossan<br /><br />"He believes that Jesus was only a mortal man, conceived and born the natural way. He performed no miracles, was killed and His body "probably eaten by wild dogs." "<br />http://www.bible.ca/ef/topical-crossan-vs-jesus.htm<br /><br />So the two men you appear to be holding up as the ultimate authorities on the passion narrative both seem to be of the Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-52445364526057153422017-04-03T10:39:08.246-07:002017-04-03T10:39:08.246-07:00The Dunn boook that you link to was written in 198...The Dunn boook that you link to was written in 1985. So Koester said that sometime before then,I'll assume at least 2 years, In his book Ancient Christian Gospels that I quote from 1992, he says:<br /><br /> Koester writes, "John Dominic Crosson has gone further [than Denker]...he argues that this activity results in the composition of a literary document at a very early date i.e. in Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-3486279662267866502017-04-03T08:10:31.747-07:002017-04-03T08:10:31.747-07:00We do not have the original passion narrative, so ...We do not have the original passion narrative, so we do not know what was in it, though scholars have made some educated guesses, they disagree on the details, and in particular they disagree on whether it included the Empty Tomb. We have no idea how it got modified between first writing and Mark getting written. We have only one copy of Peter, dated centuries later, so again we do not know how Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com