tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post8399701616843094634..comments2008-04-09T09:03:16.454-07:00Laymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-3187944396746868882008-04-09T09:03:00.000-07:002008-04-09T09:03:00.000-07:00

Slav,Sorry for the delay. Massive project was being finished elsewhere.{{We shouldn't ask of those objects something that wasn't yet either a duty or a desire in those times.}}Certainly not; and yet we manage to draw conclusions about them from which further theories are based anyway--even if we can’t update our findings and bring them into better alignment with more effective modern methods. (I

Jason Pratthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-58601772920657599472008-04-05T21:21:00.000-07:002008-04-05T21:21:00.000-07:00

Thanks for the correction and the link. I missed the 60 minutes interview.

Laymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-21709135509051458692008-04-05T14:26:00.000-07:002008-04-05T14:26:00.000-07:00

FYI: You said one of the defendants is "Raymond Deutsch", but his actual name is Robert.I'm surprised you didn't mention the recent report on the TV show "60 Minutes", which attempted to link the forgery of the James Ossuary to the forgery of the Joash Tablet via an Egyptian. In what I believe to have been a staged undercover interview, he claims to have forged inscriptions for Oded Golan.Todd

G.M. Grenahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16715203546886901296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-47249507167789311382008-03-29T08:28:00.000-07:002008-03-29T08:28:00.000-07:00

It is has been eye-opening just to see how the Israeli criminal justice system works.

Laymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-32236621943997722292008-03-29T02:34:00.000-07:002008-03-29T02:34:00.000-07:00

It is amazing that this trial has taken so long.

Steven Carrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-21270070117689045152008-03-28T16:34:00.000-07:002008-03-28T16:34:00.000-07:00

Yes, provenance is the word I meant."its omission could in principle be outweighed by superiority of other factors, couldn't it?"You cite, as an example, objects that were procured through less then Modern methods in the past. We shouldn't ask of those objects something that wasn't yet either a duty or a desire in those times. But the ossuary isn't one of those objects. As far as I'm aware,

slaveofonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17493574936843969520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-27591549534107960802008-03-28T13:28:00.000-07:002008-03-28T13:28:00.000-07:00

Slav,I'm a bit fuzzy on why I would have an individual opinion that both the ossuary and the inscription (in its parts) are authentic, that wasn't based on an evidential argument. A lack of clear provenance (I recall that it's provenance, not providence, btw) is certainly a serious problem, but while it's an important component of an evidential argument it isn't the only component and its

Jason Pratthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-58287984639769800542008-03-28T11:50:00.000-07:002008-03-28T11:50:00.000-07:00

SOO,I think many agree with you. However, in my opinion, the "non-providence" goes to the weight of the evidence rather than its admissibility.

Laymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-60295475928457435392008-03-28T11:14:00.000-07:002008-03-28T11:14:00.000-07:00

The real problem was and continues to be the non-providence of the artifact. Excavation, a primary component of archeology, cannot be done in the antiquities market, only in the field. In my judgment, while this allows for individual opinion on an object, it disallows for using that opinion as the basis of any kind of evidential argument or scientific conclusion. Thus, I may think that both

slaveofonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17493574936843969520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-30790149303168115362008-03-27T05:15:00.000-07:002008-03-27T05:15:00.000-07:00

Interesting Chris; thanks for the update!JRP

Jason Pratthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.com