tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post657556332501378867..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: NewsFlash: Christians Seen NegativelyBKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-45418988762525625072007-10-12T20:15:00.000-07:002007-10-12T20:15:00.000-07:00And with those kind last words, I thank you for a ...And with those kind last words, I thank you for a [mostly] civil conversation.BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-20123230467564003982007-10-12T20:13:00.000-07:002007-10-12T20:13:00.000-07:00Anon,I think Bill was being ironic about you sayin...Anon,<BR/><BR/>I think Bill was being ironic about you saying that whites were superior to blacks: he meant that you were totally misunderstanding and misrepresenting what I said in much the same way. More on that in a minute.<BR/><BR/>Also, Bill not only read your last two sentences, he reprinted them in detail and discussed them, too.<BR/><BR/>I was going to say (comments have moved on since I Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-36996321079454528152007-10-12T20:12:00.000-07:002007-10-12T20:12:00.000-07:00Trying to reason with you makes no more sense than...Trying to reason with you makes no more sense than a rabbi trying to reason with a neo-nazi.<BR/><BR/>Have a miserable life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-31831585589370866582007-10-12T19:57:00.000-07:002007-10-12T19:57:00.000-07:00Thanks for ending on a cheerful note. It makes me ...Thanks for ending on a cheerful note. It makes me see exactly how much I should question your third premise. <BR/><BR/>But supposing that your hatred towards Christians is an anomaly and that you are capable of love, I really don't see how adding in the supposedly missing assertion helps you. First, if you'd follow your own advice and read the problem you'd see that you have once again BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-42926837949652109472007-10-12T19:34:00.000-07:002007-10-12T19:34:00.000-07:00"You still haven't shown how the example is bigote..."You still haven't shown how the example is bigoted."<BR/><BR/>Then you haven't read the last two sentences of my most recent reply. <BR/><BR/>"I leave it to others to figure out whether there is any sense at all to what you have just said."<BR/><BR/>You've left out an essential piece of information: your assertion that it is impossible to love without being a xian. As one of my favorite Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-66250211434289422272007-10-12T19:26:00.000-07:002007-10-12T19:26:00.000-07:001. You still haven't shown how the example is bigo...1. You still haven't shown how the example is bigoted. <BR/><BR/>2. Don't worry, I didn't assume that you were a bigot based on what you said.<BR/><BR/>3. Let me get your logic straight here: <BR/><BR/>Premise 1: I do not believe that your god exists.<BR/><BR/>Premise 2: I would rather die than follow your god. <BR/><BR/>Premise 3: I am capable of love. <BR/><BR/>Conclusion: You are a bigot. <BR/BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-28491321816804688892007-10-12T19:18:00.000-07:002007-10-12T19:18:00.000-07:00"However, I note that you have made a point of say..."However, I note that you have made a point of saying that whites are superior to blacks in your example."<BR/><BR/>No, I said that your bigoted assertion that your god is necessary for love is just as bigoted as the assertion that white supremacy is what makes love possible.<BR/><BR/>If you think that's an admission to being racist, then you're even more of an idiot than I thought.<BR/><BR/>"To Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-49656008233626992792007-10-12T19:13:00.000-07:002007-10-12T19:13:00.000-07:00I'll leave it to others to decide which of us is b...I'll leave it to others to decide which of us is being condescending.<BR/><BR/>To claim something is a bigoted statement does not make it such. Your effort to draw a comparison through your black/white argument misses Jason's point entirely. <BR/><BR/>And I already know a bigot is a bigot. However, I note that you have made a point of saying that whites are superior to blacks in your example. Is BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-50401455625500977372007-10-12T19:04:00.000-07:002007-10-12T19:04:00.000-07:00"There we go. That's a perfectly civil answer and ..."There we go. That's a perfectly civil answer and I will let it stand."<BR/><BR/>*gasp!* Oh, you will!? Thank you, massah! I neva' try runnin' again!<BR/><BR/>Try again. This time, try *not* to be nearly unimaginably condescending.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Oh, and by the way, "[g]od's existence is what allows love to exist at all" is just as bigoted of a statement as "If whites weren't superior to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-73718410976933924662007-10-12T18:58:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:58:00.000-07:00There we go. That's a perfectly civil answer and I...There we go. That's a perfectly civil answer and I will let it stand. I will also let Jason handle your comment, if he wants, but I will say this: if you had read his answer more closely (before it was deleted) you would've seen that he didn't say that you were incapable of love. Rather, he said that <I>if God didn't exist</I> you wouldn't be capable of love. In other words, God's existence is BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-55087072079133477882007-10-12T18:52:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:52:00.000-07:00It most definitely is not. I, however, don't see ...It most definitely is not. I, however, don't see why I should be civil towards people who think that I'm incapable of love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-17393165260550907262007-10-12T18:47:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:47:00.000-07:00All you need to be is civil. Obviously, that is be...All you need to be is civil. Obviously, that is beyond you.BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-37853367324330959532007-10-12T18:44:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:44:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-33652939190265777702007-10-12T18:40:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:40:00.000-07:00Anon,Of course, anything you post will be deleted....Anon,<BR/><BR/>Of course, anything you post will be deleted. So, you'll get away with it for an hour or so, but ultimately no one will see it. So, let's just stop now, okay?BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-80889892864373477762007-10-12T18:38:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:38:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-79194428875829138102007-10-12T18:20:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:20:00.000-07:00Or for taking down any of the posts, actually. (In...Or for taking down any of the posts, actually. (Including, perhaps by accident, another anon post gently complaining about the initial profanity.) That was another site administrator, not Bill; and he was acting entirely within his purview. Comment policy is very clearly stated over there to the right: (1) the comments must be civil.<BR/><BR/>Flagrant vulgarity is absolutely intended to offend Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-28736070996625443132007-10-12T18:06:00.000-07:002007-10-12T18:06:00.000-07:00Incidentally, I asked Bill to delete my post if he...Incidentally, I asked Bill to delete my post if he believed he had to take out the first one; because I didn't think it would be fair to have my reply up but not that to which I was replying. So no one should blame him for taking me out, too; that was my idea.<BR/><BR/>JRPJason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-76335826135714622352007-10-12T17:51:00.000-07:002007-10-12T17:51:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-17104094703045607452007-10-12T16:23:00.000-07:002007-10-12T16:23:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-9925321290380995522007-10-12T16:15:00.000-07:002007-10-12T16:15:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-9731681984561964062007-10-12T03:16:00.000-07:002007-10-12T03:16:00.000-07:00Normally, I would delete the comment with the vulg...Normally, I would delete the comment with the vulgarity, but I am going to leave it up for two reasons. First, I think that Jason P has written a very nice reply, and the reply would not make sense without the original comment. Second, I want to address anonymous myself (even though I doubt that he/she will ever return to read it because people who post stuff like that usually play hit-and-run onBKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-79073389204827136232007-10-11T20:51:00.000-07:002007-10-11T20:51:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-70169550573339787942007-10-11T17:46:00.000-07:002007-10-11T17:46:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-81977670927964913742007-10-11T16:50:00.000-07:002007-10-11T16:50:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com