tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post6513209965139199920..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: "Morality just loves me, or something"BKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-65182953667232636182012-09-05T13:48:29.721-07:002012-09-05T13:48:29.721-07:00"Compassion is the basis of morality."
T..."Compassion is the basis of morality."<br />That is simply false. It is one aspect of it. Morality is composed of many aspects including duty to the self. If you help a person with something minor but in the process totally destroy youself that is a bad thing. PhaseVelocityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13430408292872762878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-9436923839846076162012-08-27T08:35:16.521-07:002012-08-27T08:35:16.521-07:00Compassion is the basis of morality. Compassion is the basis of morality. Anti Money Launderinghttp://aml-assassin.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-57328468365315838222012-07-13T20:09:04.125-07:002012-07-13T20:09:04.125-07:00Claiming you converted to a religion for rational ...Claiming you converted to a religion for rational arguments is common. Few people are willing to admit they converted for irrational arguments. Still this is usually they case. Humans base around 80% of their decisions on non-rational grounds. When somebody starts to accept faith for emotional reasons cognitive dissonance kicks in. A posteriori rationalizations are collected and most of the time PhaseVelocityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13430408292872762878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-74238295133955116462012-07-03T16:26:46.121-07:002012-07-03T16:26:46.121-07:00Yes, I'd say it's a bit ironic. But not un...Yes, I'd say it's a bit ironic. But not unexpected: if I recall correctly her boyfriend (whom she named her forum surtag after) is Roman Catholic. That has to make <i>some</i> kind of practical difference, even if she's being responsibly self-critical about it.<br /><br />Not all of RCC theology has taken the impersonalist route, though. Polish theologian Waclaw Hryniewicz (who Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-19364280519556174932012-07-03T09:15:35.746-07:002012-07-03T09:15:35.746-07:00So I guess I did just learn something in a convers...So I guess I did just learn something in a conversion story, just not the bit that JD put in bold :)Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-41311806314099496592012-07-03T09:14:30.793-07:002012-07-03T09:14:30.793-07:00So given the strong strain within Catholicism that...So given the strong strain within Catholicism that advocates a classical God that is not person, not an agent, and such, is it a bit ironic that she went to Catholicism because the moral laws love her. Could you get more personalistic than that?<br /><br />I see the pull of this, philosophically, I guess. It was never meant to solve the problem of interaction between our minds and the nonphysicalBlue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-62991132775262542372012-07-03T04:13:00.491-07:002012-07-03T04:13:00.491-07:00BDK,
In terms of her actual moves, particularly t...BDK,<br /><br />In terms of her actual moves, particularly the only move JD literally put in bold print, she decided <b>"I guess Morality must <i>love</i> me or something!"</b><br /><br />{g}<br /><br />I agree with your comments generally about interest in deconversion/conversion stories by the way. I just thought it was funny that JD did bold the one point where he quoted her in Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-51288722125184045072012-06-30T20:31:10.623-07:002012-06-30T20:31:10.623-07:00Atheistic moral realists definitely doesn't ha...Atheistic moral realists definitely doesn't have a well-articulated consensus position.<br /><br />Yes I was joking. <br /><br />In terms of her actual moves: under theism, compared with some kind of Platonism, how does it become easier to account for our contact with (nonphysical) moral truths?Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-57692691905723543512012-06-30T14:16:50.577-07:002012-06-30T14:16:50.577-07:00Um, surely you're being sarcastic with that la...Um, surely you're being sarcastic with that last statement?<br /><br />You're right about the psychological dynamics of people's fascination with conversion stories, of course. People coming to our side encourage us, while those who leave it destabilize us and make us question. You're also right about the lack of new arguments, but it seems that in religious as well as political Henotheist11https://www.blogger.com/profile/11379183579727346837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-54419715185860901632012-06-30T10:10:08.543-07:002012-06-30T10:10:08.543-07:00What I find more interesting is that deconversion ...What I find more interesting is that deconversion stories are so interesting to people. This isn't just with religion, but all domains where the evidence presently isn't enough to decide an issue. E.g., Jaegwon Kim "came out" as a not-quite-physicalist, and Chalmers was all giddy. <br /><br />Why I find this interesting: I don't think I've ever seen a new argument in oneBlue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-83552647868039114302012-06-29T16:22:19.129-07:002012-06-29T16:22:19.129-07:00Haha, YES it does. (Facepalm) That was hysterical,...Haha, YES it does. (Facepalm) That was hysterical, thanks for pointing it out.Henotheist11https://www.blogger.com/profile/11379183579727346837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-28533742455016652882012-06-29T16:06:09.625-07:002012-06-29T16:06:09.625-07:00Great post JD, but you might want to correct that ...Great post JD, but you might want to correct that typo in the first sentence of your second paragraph from "nothing" to "noting." It changes the meaning of the sentence a little... lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com