tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post536357199953451772..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: A Note To Our Atheist Friends about "Atheist Watch"BKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-30350862604194307672007-12-20T01:59:00.000-08:002007-12-20T01:59:00.000-08:00Anon,I think you are referring to the article:"Two...Anon,<BR/><BR/>I think you are referring to the article:<BR/>"Two Groups of Paranoids Scaring Each Other Todeath" <BR/>from "the atheist watch"<BR/>I never commented or referred to that article.<BR/><BR/>go to <BR/>"An atheist hymn" article on Christian cadre<BR/>scroll down to J.L. Hinman comment on 12/13/2007 09:16:00 AM<BR/><BR/>J.L. Hinman openly agrees that his "The Atheist Watch" blog Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636524117308077140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-16991591601375385182007-12-19T23:01:00.000-08:002007-12-19T23:01:00.000-08:00What is Peter on about?Here is what Hinman writes ...What is Peter on about?<BR/><BR/>Here is what Hinman writes on his blog - 'NO unfortunately for Cline the truth of it is, I never see anyone talk about atheists. I think that's what he's really upset about. They don't even rate on the radar enough to ridicule.'<BR/><BR/>How can Peter accuse Hinman of hate, when Hinman doesn't even talk about atheists. They don't even rate enough to ridicule.<BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-75183670531626964632007-12-18T14:24:00.000-08:002007-12-18T14:24:00.000-08:00J.L. Hinman,your comment is if the Chruch polices ...J.L. Hinman,<BR/><BR/><I>your comment is if the Chruch polices their own ranks why do they still have problem? So your conception is that either Christians are totally perfect with no problems or its' not true?</I><BR/>Absolutely not. I stated that nobody is policing the Church leaders. Whenever a child molestation case pops up, it is because someone outside the clergy brought it to day light.<BRPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636524117308077140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-4901155539786015782007-12-18T04:42:00.000-08:002007-12-18T04:42:00.000-08:00your comment is if the Chruch polices their own ra...your comment is if the Chruch polices their own ranks why do they still have problem? So your conception is that either Christians are totally perfect with no problems or its' not true?<BR/><BR/>typicalJoseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-70808699820611686562007-12-17T15:00:00.000-08:002007-12-17T15:00:00.000-08:00Friend J.L. Hinman,Thanks for clearing up your an...Friend J.L. Hinman,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for clearing up your and thanks for calling me a friend.<BR/>Thanks for bk and Jason Pratt for giving their opinion.<BR/><BR/>You said that you had a [Christian?] "fundie watch" blog before. Like mattghg suggested, why don't you rename your blog to "Fundy atheist watch", if you don't mean all atheist? <BR/><BR/><I>Now how that can make me a hate monger is Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636524117308077140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-41703219002464328752007-12-17T09:59:00.000-08:002007-12-17T09:59:00.000-08:00Thanks Ex!Hermit BK would not play stupid games. I...Thanks Ex!<BR/><BR/>Hermit BK would not play stupid games. If he says he didn't zap it he didn't. Bill is not a game player.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-44400252048839328632007-12-17T09:28:00.001-08:002007-12-17T09:28:00.001-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-30003364083506492242007-12-17T09:28:00.000-08:002007-12-17T09:28:00.000-08:00. . . and that would be, Mr./Ms. Anonymous?. . . and that would be, Mr./Ms. Anonymous?BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-5361213022741105792007-12-16T23:03:00.000-08:002007-12-16T23:03:00.000-08:00Metacrock's posts and Atheist Watch are very much ...Metacrock's posts and Atheist Watch are very much the sort of thing that has made the Christian Cadre what they are today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-34834512316869907512007-12-16T16:39:00.000-08:002007-12-16T16:39:00.000-08:00It was here after I posted it, now it's gone. Do y...It was here after I posted it, now it's gone. Do you have a profanity filter? I did quote Hinman directly in it, after all...>;-}<BR/><BR/>Or maybe I screwed up, no matter...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-6304123900201243382007-12-16T16:24:00.000-08:002007-12-16T16:24:00.000-08:00By the way, what happened to the other comment I l...<EM>By the way, what happened to the other comment I left here earlier?</EM><BR/><BR/>If it had been deleted, it would show as deleted by moderator. I expect you simply didn't post it correctly or its floating somewhere in the ethernet.BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-38537044708377091432007-12-16T12:33:00.000-08:002007-12-16T12:33:00.000-08:00I'm sorry you were attacked, Hinman. I wouldn't d...I'm sorry you were attacked, Hinman. I wouldn't do that. I wish you all the best.exapologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09915579495149582531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-70267356872393476302007-12-16T12:01:00.000-08:002007-12-16T12:01:00.000-08:00"have you looked at the current post on atheist wa...<I>"have you looked at the current post on atheist watch?"</I><BR/><BR/>Yes I have. Have you looked at any of the comments I've left there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-83972943871630228712007-12-16T11:58:00.000-08:002007-12-16T11:58:00.000-08:00"one time you helped about twelve other people bel...<I>"one time you helped about twelve other people belittle me and I got angry and insulted you..."</I><BR/><BR/>I did nothing of the kind; I answered your e-mail inviting me to participate in your ezboard forum and walked into a collection of posts by you with titles like "stupid atheists" and "atheists are scum". When I objected to your characterization of atheists as Nazis and asked you to backAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-57439823134866446912007-12-16T11:43:00.000-08:002007-12-16T11:43:00.000-08:00have you looked at the current post on atheist wat...have you looked at the current post on atheist watch?<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://atheistwatch.blogspot.com/Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-91137645549608782542007-12-16T11:42:00.000-08:002007-12-16T11:42:00.000-08:00Hermit I think I have made a lot more attempts to ...Hermit I think I have made a lot more attempts to offer a balanced view than you are willing to admit or even see with your eyes.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what happened to your post but I have no power to take things off of here except my own. BK wouldn't do that unless he thought it was obscene or very inappropriate, but I doubt that it was. Other than that I really have no idea.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-75331862460820169042007-12-16T09:57:00.000-08:002007-12-16T09:57:00.000-08:00By the way, what happened to the other comment I l...By the way, what happened to the other comment I left here earlier?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-5000201915009625022007-12-16T09:56:00.000-08:002007-12-16T09:56:00.000-08:00"I do quote FBI stats on hate crimes. The very fis...<I>"I do quote FBI stats on hate crimes. The very fist post, which I am sure you have not read, is about how the general atheist community on boards stacks up to the FBI model for hate group development."</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, I did read that post, and it doesn't show anything like what you think it does.<BR/><BR/>In one of my comments I collected a bunch of anecdotes about Christians behaving Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-10874369917516115282007-12-16T08:32:00.000-08:002007-12-16T08:32:00.000-08:00take the metacrock challenge if you don't believe ...take the metacrock challenge if you don't believe me. go to Infidel guy and pretend to be Christian and argue politely but firmly deafening some Christian position and see how they treat you!<BR/><BR/>repeat process on CARM, Atheist Net, Sec web. you will see they have shut down rational discussion.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-86145652006891133092007-12-16T08:30:00.000-08:002007-12-16T08:30:00.000-08:00The problem with starting a blog that focuses on t...The problem with starting a blog that focuses on that group is that it paints the rest of the atheist community as part of the crazies. I don't think most atheists are crazy -- just wrong. If you are going to run a blog about the crazies, you have to state time and again (maybe in every blog entry) that you are talking only about a loud, boisterous, curt, angry, hateful group within the broader Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-50271474154229666752007-12-16T08:22:00.000-08:002007-12-16T08:22:00.000-08:00You have a point that I"m collecting random exampl...You have a point that I"m collecting random examples of incidendents. That's because there is no systematic collection or offical index for rudeness on message boards.<BR/><BR/>I do quote FBI stats on hate crimes. The very fist post, which I am sure you have not read, is about how the general atheist community on boards stacks up to the FBI model for hate group development.<BR/><BR/>As for the Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-77311664543448094822007-12-16T08:14:00.000-08:002007-12-16T08:14:00.000-08:00"I was very careful to say I am not claiming that ...<I>"I was very careful to say I am not claiming that all of atheism is a hate group."</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, and every anti-semite and racist I've ever met has been careful to point out that "some of my best friends are" Jewish/Black/Indian etc<BR/><BR/>All I see you doing over there is collecting random examples of isolated incidents, blowing them out proportion, mixing in a little psychological Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-6211203674567827712007-12-16T06:58:00.000-08:002007-12-16T06:58:00.000-08:00If you are going to run a blog about the crazies, ...<I>If you are going to run a blog about the crazies, you have to state time and again (maybe in every blog entry) that you are talking only about a loud, boisterous, curt, angry, hateful group within the broader culture of atheism</I><BR/><BR/>In that case, maybe it would be simpler to change the name of the blog to make it clear there. Something like "Fundy atheist watch"?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342391408412861663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-27559608491022012482007-12-16T05:53:00.000-08:002007-12-16T05:53:00.000-08:00I'll answer here, if you don't mind. You wrote:I f...I'll answer here, if you don't mind. You wrote:<BR/><BR/><EM>I find most atheists to be very irrational and uninformed, not very analytical, sometimes totally dishonest and self-deceived.</EM><BR/><BR/>I think that there is a small but vocal part of the atheist community to be very irrational and uninformed, but not "most" by any stretch of the imagination. They are the atheist zealots whom I BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.com