tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post4822894349064517226..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: The power of a Christ-filled lifeBKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-79304446933071963632007-10-30T08:44:00.000-07:002007-10-30T08:44:00.000-07:00Also, I think it's funny (though typical) that whe...Also, I think it's funny (though typical) that when I post up a long series of positions where easily more than 70% of them (maybe more like 90%?) either would count as a sceptical position, or involve dismissing attempts at trying to make a believing position out of them, or overtly admit that I wish things were different too, or overtly agree that I don't blame sceptics for having problems withJason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-27875705907390354012007-10-30T08:13:00.000-07:002007-10-30T08:13:00.000-07:00{{When it comes to responding to what you wrote I'...{{When it comes to responding to what you wrote I'm reminded of what Stephen Law said in response to a question: “Anything complete enough will be so long that no one will read it anyway, and anything that is short enough to actually be read will be trivial and poorly executed.”}}<BR/><BR/>Strangely, that was my critique of your run-on sentence attempt at establishing what you’d accept as a Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-63867274736226384682007-10-29T06:07:00.000-07:002007-10-29T06:07:00.000-07:00Let me anticipate some of your objections from my ...Let me anticipate some of your objections from my book:<BR/><BR/>Apologists will argue that ancient cosmological beliefs were not important for God to correct; since all he wanted to do was to let humans to know that it was HE who created it. But when we reflect on the Galileo affair and the irreparable harm it did to the Christian faith once astronomers understood the vastness and age of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-42836401078929668302007-10-29T06:01:00.000-07:002007-10-29T06:01:00.000-07:00JD said...Why would you deprive us of this joy and...JD said...<I>Why would you deprive us of this joy and more importantly, why would God? Why on earth would the scientific inexplicability of the world be an argument for the existence of God?</I><BR/><BR/>Because it has led so many people away from God. And if these people end up in hell when God could easily have done otherwise, despite the joy of understanding the world, he did an insufferable Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-57608080075988498182007-10-29T05:48:00.000-07:002007-10-29T05:48:00.000-07:00John,As a scientist myself (studying neuroscience)...John,<BR/>As a scientist myself (studying neuroscience) your idea of 'scientific' evidence for God is puzzling, even repugnant. For centuries the ability of the human mind to exercise reason to comprehend the world and the apparent 'fit' between the human mind and natural processes (so that we can understand them mathematically) has been one of the most convincing arguments FOR the existence of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-22871539722890954582007-10-28T19:21:00.000-07:002007-10-28T19:21:00.000-07:00Consequently, while it may look cute for your read...<I>Consequently, while it may look cute for your readers (or for some of them anyway), it only gives us ground for believing that we should never take you seriously on any single discussion again, ever.</I><BR/><BR/>If this is truly what you think then you should've stopped with that sentence. <BR/><BR/>Besides whether you do or not makes little difference to me since many others will, just wait Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-82776605889113414422007-10-28T17:41:00.000-07:002007-10-28T17:41:00.000-07:00John,{{However, if I was convinced Christianity is...John,<BR/><BR/>{{However, if I was convinced Christianity is true and Jesus arose from the grave, and if I must believe in such a barbaric God, I would believe, yes, but I could still not worship such a barbaric God. I would fear such a Supreme Being, since he has such great power, but I'd still view him as a thug, a despicable tyrant, a devil in disguise; unless Christianity was revised.}}<BR/><Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-28578471215102110722007-10-27T08:11:00.000-07:002007-10-27T08:11:00.000-07:00All we ask is what reasonable people should ask. W...<I>All we ask is what reasonable people should ask. We ask that the evidence and reasons to believe support what we are supposed to believe.</I><BR/><BR/>Gross oversimplification. As the rest of your post shows, you have very specific and detailed requirements of what the evidence should be. <BR/><BR/>Many reasonable people have found the existing evidence and reasons to lead them to Christian Laymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-73721456502222610122007-10-27T08:07:00.000-07:002007-10-27T08:07:00.000-07:00The rule is not "no links," but no excessive linki...The rule is not "no links," but no excessive linking. This is especially problematic when the link is tangential at best.Laymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-63424861044199500892007-10-27T07:43:00.000-07:002007-10-27T07:43:00.000-07:00Okay then, no links. I'll post my comments here.La...Okay then, no links. I'll post my comments here.<BR/><BR/>Layman said...<I>One problem with many atheists' approach to the issue is that they seem to think that God should have presented the evidence just as they would like to see it laid out.</I><BR/><BR/>All we ask is what reasonable people should ask. We ask that the evidence and reasons to believe support what we are supposed to believe.<BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-8120961326620182612007-10-27T07:21:00.000-07:002007-10-27T07:21:00.000-07:00Loftus,Your comments are under heightened scrutiny...Loftus,<BR/><BR/>Your comments are under heightened scrutiny at present in part because of your excessive spamming of links to your own site that involve little or not argumentation.Laymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-67652239018091155462007-10-27T05:02:00.000-07:002007-10-27T05:02:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-7613210720167937522007-10-26T23:18:00.000-07:002007-10-26T23:18:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Laymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-78627110360153222652007-10-26T20:45:00.000-07:002007-10-26T20:45:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-39247226916579718332007-10-26T20:29:00.000-07:002007-10-26T20:29:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-70256475118829761572007-10-25T17:43:00.000-07:002007-10-25T17:43:00.000-07:00JD,Great post. Thanks. One problem with many ath...JD,<BR/><BR/>Great post. Thanks. <BR/><BR/>One problem with many atheists' approach to the issue is that they seem to think that God should have presented the evidence just as they would like to see it laid out. But what God did, while IMO respecting man's free will, has resulted in Christianity being the majority belief system on the planet. Is God more concerned with meeting certain Laymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761410435140602771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-74357416105859769412007-10-25T16:09:00.000-07:002007-10-25T16:09:00.000-07:00Does anyone think it's strange that there are many...Does anyone think it's strange that there are many reported miracles in third world countries but nothing really happening here?<BR/>(By here I mean America)<BR/><BR/>Is it because those people are more superstituous while we are more enlightened? Or is there something else going on?Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18417260051312383466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-69704822175279901442007-10-25T15:15:00.000-07:002007-10-25T15:15:00.000-07:00This makes me think about one of the saddest thing...This makes me think about one of the saddest things with Christianity in America today: It has essentially reduced morality and Christian living to little more than sexual ethics. That's part of Christian morality, but it's so much more than that - our ethics should be defined by far more than what we think people should <I>not</I> do. And I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to matters like Kzer-zahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03911237632932454315noreply@blogger.com