tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post3347294350758460802..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: The King of Stories -- First Disciples, First SignBKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-86158399690671802882008-01-23T10:33:00.000-08:002008-01-23T10:33:00.000-08:00Thanks so much for the encouragement! I really app...Thanks so much for the encouragement! I really appreciate it.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425507979635780287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-77513624195208980302008-01-22T08:06:00.000-08:002008-01-22T08:06:00.000-08:00Thanks for stopping by our blog, too! {g}If you st...Thanks for stopping by our blog, too! {g}<BR/><BR/>If you started investigating universalism as you were reflecting on the doctrine of the Trinity, I'd say you were on the right track. (That was how I finally arrived there, after years of what might be called hopeful suspicion. {s}) We have some contributors here who are hopefully suspicious, too (including an EOx contributor); and others who go Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-8336258888357472432008-01-21T17:18:00.000-08:002008-01-21T17:18:00.000-08:00Jason,Thanks for stopping by my blog! I actually s...Jason,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by my blog! I actually started investigating universalism as I was reflecting on the doctrine of the Trinity. :) Anyway, thanks for all your input! I don't have a whole lot of theological training and I'm especially ignorant when it comes to exegetical issues so any help I can get in that area is invaluable.<BR/><BR/>Looking forward to investigating your blog aRachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10425507979635780287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-5388193482148842852008-01-21T08:29:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:29:00.000-08:00.......[seventh footnote comment here]GosJohn neve..........[seventh footnote comment here]<BR/><BR/>GosJohn never mentions Jesus' mother by name; which could be in keeping with the claim that the 'beloved disciple' who later adopts Mary as his mother at Jesus' request, is the author or editor of this Gospel. He would (in that case) be following one ancient decorum standard, of not including one's own name in a biography which should be centered onJason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-27335924229682964042008-01-21T08:26:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:26:00.000-08:00.......[sixth footnote comment here]Cana was a tow..........[sixth footnote comment here]<BR/><BR/>Cana was a town about 5-7 miles west of Galilee Lake, across the surrounding mountains; also 5-7 miles north of Nazareth. Betharaba ford, probably just north of the Dead Sea, on the road past Jericho from Jerusalem, is quite a hike from there; but not too strenuous for three or more strong young men who are used to traveling by foot in hilly terrain: Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-20638275580169197652008-01-21T08:25:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:25:00.000-08:00.......[fifth comment footnote here]Thus, Nathanae..........[fifth comment footnote here]<BR/><BR/>Thus, Nathanael--a fellow who is presented as being a bit of a comic figure, a little oversceptical <I>and</I> a little overcredulous, yet affectionately accepted by Jesus--becomes the first disciple to confess Jesus as Son of God; not Peter, who along with Andrew (per the Synoptics) did <I>not</I> join Jesus at this time, even after spending a day Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-90171001740081211582008-01-21T08:22:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:22:00.000-08:00.......[fourth comment footnote here]Nazareth shou..........[fourth comment footnote here]<BR/><BR/>Nazareth should not be confused with modern Nazareth, though it would have been nearby the modern locale. Nazareth was founded as a watchstation between tribal borders during the Joshuan invasion of the region; originally it was known as Sarid or Tsareth (per Joshua 19 in the OT). By the 1st century, it was probably an unincorporated suburb of Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-62394419737571652352008-01-21T08:21:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:21:00.000-08:00.......[third footnote comment here]Bethsaida (i.e..........[third footnote comment here]<BR/><BR/>Bethsaida (i.e. ‘Huntingdon’, or next to a lake ‘Fisherton’), renamed as Julias by Herod to honor an Empress, is the name of a 1st century township on the eastern side of the Jordan River at the point where it enters Galilee Lake at the north. Western towns on the Galilee shores were generally Jewish and eastern towns were generally Gentile, although Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-78573202851360371092008-01-21T08:19:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:19:00.000-08:00.......[second footnote comment here]The other sto..........[second footnote comment here]<BR/><BR/>The other storytellers imply that Andrew and Peter at least, if not the other disciple (probably intended to be the author, based on how GosJohn ends), did not join Jesus at this time, but only remained with Him for the day.<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind that at this point in the story, Andrew, Peter and whoever-that-unnamed-disciple-connected-with-them is, Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-87433313164541203642008-01-21T08:18:00.000-08:002008-01-21T08:18:00.000-08:00.......[first footnote comment here]In 1st c. Hebr..........[first footnote comment here]<BR/><BR/>In 1st c. Hebrew time reckoning, “for the day” could mean until any time after noon; there were several notions of ‘evening’, starting from the point where the sun begins descending after mid-day, until actual sunset--at which point the new day would be reckoned to have begun. (This, incidentally, leads to some interesting interpretations of Genesis 1Jason Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602238179676591394noreply@blogger.com