Comments on CADRE Comments: Big Picture on Biblical Morality

"where did I say those actions conform to the mess...

2008-10-06T13:25:00.000-07:00

"where did I say those actions conform to the message of charity? where did I say those actions are not wrong? did actually read it?"

Yes Joe, I did, and this post looks to me like an attempt to reconcile the atrocities allegedly carried out by Moses at God's command with the larger narrative of Christian compassion; killing all of those Canaanite babies may have been awful but,

j.,I'm sure 4,202,567 atheists before me have pois...

2008-10-03T22:22:00.000-07:00

j.,

I'm sure 4,202,567 atheists before me have poisoned the well, and so you do not readily expect constructive criticism. I empathize, and am guilty of hasty responses myself. I forgive you for accusing me of having a lack of reading comprehension. However;

"What does this have to do with my argument?" Well class, you said, "Point 1: OT morality is progressive." and my

you are all acting like I said "O it was ok to kil...

2008-10-03T20:03:00.000-07:00

you are all acting like I said "O it was ok to kill in Mose day. but not it's not.

In the Bible, God orders the Hebrews to murder. You say God progressively hands down revelation of morality to humans. So I ask: why is it progressive for God to order the Hebrews to kill?

However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not

It is rather a stretch to say that Adam and Eve we...

2008-10-03T13:02:00.000-07:00
It is rather a stretch to say that Adam and Eve weren't ready for Morality WHATEVER_#_WE'RE_AT.0 as though anything you could tell them from 6,000 years of revelation is really that complicated. You don't think they were ape people, do you? Hence, it is an argument to the better explanation, in my opinion, that the at face value progression of ethics across the "big picture" of the Bible is more

There are certainly plenty of valuable moral lesso...

2008-10-03T13:01:00.000-07:00
There are certainly plenty of valuable moral lessons to be learned from the Bible and Christian tradition; particularly Christ's message of compassion and charity; the problem, as I see it arises when believers insist that everything in the Bible must be interpreted in a manner that makes it compatible with that message.

where did I say that?

Trying to make the

1. Ah, yes, you're totally right! I understand why...

2008-10-03T12:33:00.000-07:00
1. Ah, yes, you're totally right! I understand why commanding to kill is progressive! You have finally swept the whole field and tied up this hanging problem. My heart is at ease now, thank you. This very tiny distraction of human lives and morality has been refuted.

say did any of you idiots read this thing? you are all acting like I said "O it was ok to kill in Mose day.

Excelent parody of religious fundamentalism! You d...

2008-10-03T12:31:00.000-07:00
Excelent parody of religious fundamentalism! You do a good job of pointing out exactly what is so outrageous about their lack of rational thought, while still managing to keep it serious-sounding. This made my day. :)

I'm available for children's parties and cruses.

There are certainly plenty of valuable moral lesso...

2008-10-03T08:52:00.000-07:00
There are certainly plenty of valuable moral lessons to be learned from the Bible and Christian tradition; particularly Christ's message of compassion and charity; the problem, as I see it arises when believers insist that everything in the Bible must be interpreted in a manner that makes it compatible with that message. Trying to make the genocidal slaughters of the Old Testament conform to

I have to leave another comment just so I make sur...

2008-10-03T00:37:00.000-07:00
I have to leave another comment just so I make sure I get follow ups...forgot to clik zee wittle buton!

It is rather a stretch to say that Adam and Eve we...

2008-10-02T22:21:00.000-07:00
It is rather a stretch to say that Adam and Eve weren't ready for Morality WHATEVER_#_WE'RE_AT.0 as though anything you could tell them from 6,000 years of revelation is really that complicated. You don't think they were ape people, do you? Hence, it is an argument to the better explanation, in my opinion, that the at face value progression of ethics across the "big picture" of the Bible is

After seeing what you have to say, Hinman, I think...

2008-10-02T16:52:00.000-07:00
After seeing what you have to say, Hinman, I think I have equal license to act a little childish in this post. Behold my first point:

1. Ah, yes, you're totally right! I understand why commanding to kill is progressive! You have finally swept the whole field and tied up this hanging problem. My heart is at ease now, thank you. This very tiny distraction of human lives and morality has

Excelent parody of religious fundamentalism! You ...

2008-10-02T13:52:00.000-07:00
Excelent parody of religious fundamentalism! You do a good job of pointing out exactly what is so outrageous about their lack of rational thought, while still managing to keep it serious-sounding. This made my day. :)

...sincere period of Christian music?

2008-10-01T23:40:00.000-07:00
...sincere period of Christian music?

It was a line from a song by a Christian singer na...

2008-10-01T18:27:00.000-07:00
It was a line from a song by a Christian singer named Keith Green. You have to be there. That guy died way back in like 80 or 81. It may be that a lot of people have never heard of him. He was back in the sincere period of Christian music.

Uhhh...no. I'm not a mushroom, and I don't want t...

2008-10-01T09:50:00.000-07:00
Uhhh...no. I'm not a mushroom, and I don't want to be a mushroom.

Does so-called dyslexia make people think that other people are made of soup?

I hate X, boo X. Everytime you say you like X I'm ...

2008-10-01T07:55:00.000-07:00
I hate X, boo X. Everytime you say you like X I'm going to tell you how very very much I hate X.

this is called "rational free thinking." My irrational hatred of X proves I am more intellectual than you and the hysteria with which I avow my hatred of X proves that those who hate X think more rationally an make choices based upon better logic than those morons who like X.

Uhhhh...is hell soup yet? That's the most nonsensi...

2008-10-01T07:52:00.000-07:00
Uhhhh...is hell soup yet? That's the most nonsensically surrealistic question I've heard in quite awhile.

sulphur stew.You just said you want to be the devil's mushroom.

Uhhhh...is hell soup yet? That's the most nonsens...

2008-09-30T22:01:00.000-07:00
Uhhhh...is hell soup yet? That's the most nonsensically surrealistic question I've heard in quite awhile.

Here's proof positive that some atheist bloggers h...

2008-09-30T19:18:00.000-07:00
Here's proof positive that some atheist bloggers have no clue: over at the Uncredible Hallq (and the name actually tells you a lot about the substance of the blog), Hallq actually calls you a fundie! You can find it here:
http://uncrediblehallq.net/blog/?p=149

I saw. they misquoted me of course. the are typical dawkamentalists. can't argue fiarly don't understand concepts.

What is progressive about commanding to kill other...

2008-09-30T19:12:00.000-07:00
What is progressive about commanding to kill others? You say this question is a "distraction" from "the big picture" - but this cry is the real distraction.

does evolution mean that we started from homo sapien sapien? doesn't it mean we started from very primitive single cell organisms and wet all the way up to us? didn't we have to go through a lot of early stages that weren't human

Hey Joe, Here's proof positive that some atheis...

2008-09-30T19:03:00.000-07:00
Hey Joe,

Here's proof positive that some atheist bloggers have no clue: over at the Uncredible Hallq (and the name actually tells you a lot about the substance of the blog), Hallq actually calls you a fundie! You can find it here:
http://uncrediblehallq.net/blog/?p=149

LOL. I mean, really. I bet you can't remember the last time someone mistook you for a fundie.<

LOL. I mean, really. I bet you can't remember the ...

2008-09-30T19:02:00.000-07:00
LOL. I mean, really. I bet you can't remember the last time someone mistook you for a fundie.

you would lose that bet. just this very day someone on carm assumed I was a fundie. Its' very telling.

What is progressive about commanding to kill other...

2008-09-30T15:27:00.000-07:00
What is progressive about commanding to kill others? You say this question is a "distraction" from "the big picture" - but this cry is the real distraction.

You speak about a "central point" and "one or two major principles that sweep up the whole field and tie up all the problems" - but I don't see any such thing here. Progressive moral revelation and Jesus' pre-Kant categorical

Once again, I don't care what excuses you offer. ...

2008-09-30T14:45:00.000-07:00
Once again, I don't care what excuses you offer. I would rather burn in hell for all eternity than follow Jesus for a single nanosecond.

Hey Joe,Here's proof positive that some atheist bl...

2008-09-30T14:22:00.000-07:00
Hey Joe,

Here's proof positive that some atheist bloggers have no clue: over at the Uncredible Hallq (and the name actually tells you a lot about the substance of the blog), Hallq actually calls you a fundie! You can find it here:
http://uncrediblehallq.net/blog/?p=149

LOL. I mean, really. I bet you can't remember the last time someone mistook you for a fundie.