Comments on CADRE Comments: Answering Four of Ten Questions for Christians

While I believe proper Biblical interpretation wou...

2008-10-02T22:07:00.000-07:00

While I believe proper Biblical interpretation would read "day" as "age" (such as the word "day" is used in English when speaking of the "day of the dinosaurs"), ...

It is possible this interpretation is anachronistic. Genesis 1:5 seems to say that days are composed of evenings and mornings. But then, whether this is literal or metaphorical is up for discussion.

I mean

peter:This is a false analogy fallacy. You can not...

2008-09-27T07:22:00.000-07:00
peter:This is a false analogy fallacy. You can not compare God authored book to a human authored book. Human authored book can have contadiction, but how come God authorised genoside while advocating to love our neighbour.

As much as you like to make use of the vocabulary of Logic, you don't seem to think very logically. Various interpretations of a text are not necessarily the

Don't worry Steven, I won't waste my time asking y...

2008-09-24T07:35:00.000-07:00
Don't worry Steven, I won't waste my time asking you to actually pick up a book on Biblical interpretation and read it.

1. No it's not. Calling something a fallacy doesn'...

2008-09-24T07:33:00.000-07:00
1. No it's not. Calling something a fallacy doesn't make it a fallacy (I think that's the "calling something a fallacy fallacy").

2. You asked me how you can know my opinion is correct. Using an analogy to point out the reasoning is not a fallacy. Simply because you don't want to work with me to reason it out doesn't mean that I am not answering your question.

3. How can I put

'The Bible does give some genealogies in Genesis w...

2008-09-23T23:19:00.000-07:00
'The Bible does give some genealogies in Genesis which, if you add up the numbers, would put the time of Adam at around that time. However, it doesn't take a lot of work to find that the Bible's genealogies are far from exhaustive in their list of individuals.'

You mispelled 'accurate' as 'exhaustive'.

You certainly can't read the statements in the Bible as conveying factual

Let's look at these BK's answers"1. Re: your list ...

2008-09-23T22:37:00.000-07:00
Let's look at these BK's answers

"1. Re: your list of issues -- And there have been atheists on both sides of virtually all of those issues, too."

This is a false analogy fallacy (atheists do not have a holy book) to divert the discussion (red herring fallacy) and not addressing my question.

"2. Re: which interpretation is best -- I thought that you were

Schweitzer was an atheist, too.where did you get t...

2008-09-23T21:15:00.000-07:00
Schweitzer was an atheist, too.

where did you get that idea? Schweitzer was not an atheist. He criticized Tillich because he thought Tillich was an atheist.

Peter,1. Re: your list of issues -- And there have...

2008-09-23T05:28:00.000-07:00
Peter,

1. Re: your list of issues -- And there have been atheists on both sides of virtually all of those issues, too.

2. Re: which interpretation is best -- I thought that you were a person who relied on reason. Reason it through a little by comparing it to a person who picks and chooses which portions of a political science text book choosing to retain only those portions

BK said..."that's an overstatement to say that "pr...

2008-09-23T04:52:00.000-07:00
BK said...
"that's an overstatement to say that "pretty much anything can be justified by reading the Bible or another holy book."

Bible quoting Christians are/have been on the both sides on the issues regarding divorce, capital punishment, slavery, abortion, abortion clinic bombing, killing/hating heretics/atheist/gays, polygamy, lying, burning synagogues, torturing people, divinity

Isn't it supposed to be a positive that atheism do...

2008-09-22T23:50:00.000-07:00
Isn't it supposed to be a positive that atheism doesn't mean any one thing?

Thus if you didn't like Pol Pot: Hey! Not all atheists agree with Pol Pot.

But a world without God justifies Marxism, but we should not let ourselves get too far ahead, because Schweitzer was an atheist, too. Some believe in revolution, some believe in altruism.

The mode may be

However, the point I was trying to make, and appar...

2008-09-22T21:23:00.000-07:00
However, the point I was trying to make, and apparently didn't, is that I find it frustrating when both Christian and atheist apologists lump all their opponents together. Not all atheists believe the same things, and not all Christians believe the same things.

that's what they all. All atheists believe they don't all believe the same things :-) warning Humor in progress--it's larks.,

many atheists seem to have an issue with the funda...

2008-09-22T21:21:00.000-07:00
many atheists seem to have an issue with the fundamentalists; some them are leaders of a nation or a religious group and tell people for example that it is their God's will to go to offensive war and kill people... I think these blog post examples highlight the fact that Christians can not agree what the Bible says and often opposite views of pretty much anything can be justified by reading the

Peter,I was more than a bit puzzled when I read yo...

2008-09-22T19:58:00.000-07:00
Peter,

I was more than a bit puzzled when I read your comment. Mr. Cline's blog (which is mostly a cut and paste from another site in this case) doesn't do anything to try to take into account that there are differences in understanding of the Biblical texts. It makes broad claims like "The Bible says the Earth is between 6,000 and 8,000 years old". I am the one who points out that there

Peter,I like a lot of what Austin has to say and a...

2008-09-22T17:31:00.000-07:00
Peter,

I like a lot of what Austin has to say and agree with him quite frequently, since I am an atheist too.

Certainly, no two Christian groups agree 100%, some of them far, far less. That is one of the reasons I do not believe in the Christian God.

However, the point I was trying to make, and apparently didn't, is that I find it frustrating when both Christian and

Mike aka Monolithtma,many atheists seem to have an...

2008-09-22T16:54:00.000-07:00
Mike aka Monolithtma,

many atheists seem to have an issue with the fundamentalists; some them are leaders of a nation or a religious group and tell people for example that it is their God's will to go to offensive war and kill people... I think these blog post examples highlight the fact that Christians can not agree what the Bible says and often opposite views of pretty much anything

I agree Mike. What I've seen of Austin Cline I cou...

2008-09-22T08:25:00.000-07:00
I agree Mike. What I've seen of Austin Cline I could say "so many atheists think if they have an internet connection they can be skeptical philosophers." Austin Kline cannot be.

So much of what too many atheists criticize about ...

2008-09-22T03:12:00.000-07:00
So much of what too many atheists criticize about the Bible is actually either theirs or some warped brand of fundamentalist Christianity's interpretation of the Bible.

I find that some of those who argue on both sides of the debate make me weary with their misunderstandings.

Good post.