tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post1321447482884400815..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: Splinters in my mindBKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-34903321016136864372011-07-12T05:09:06.404-07:002011-07-12T05:09:06.404-07:00More on the fishing net concern: I think there is ...More on the fishing net concern: I think there is a continuum here as well. There are people that are fairly open to anything, have not settled into a worldview yet, are not particularly committed. They tend to be ripe for pulling in a particular direction. This holds for any topic, not just naturalism/antinaturalism. <br /><br />Then the people that have settled into a worldview to greater and Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-5941060914146809652011-07-11T18:05:34.347-07:002011-07-11T18:05:34.347-07:00JD yes my stuff on demarcation criteria didn't...JD yes my stuff on demarcation criteria didn't contradict you directly. I think you are right that science is basically common sense that has become extremely focused and refined in a particular direction (to the point where it can loop back and kill certain aspects of common sense, and also where it cannot be understood by people simply using common sense (e.g., very high-level mathematical Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-31744901468289469252011-07-11T15:51:26.683-07:002011-07-11T15:51:26.683-07:00Hi BDK,
Thanks indeed for bringing the conversati...Hi BDK,<br /><br />Thanks indeed for bringing the conversation back on track! It was a bit frustrating to be hit with a completely irrelevant first comment.<br /><br />You're on the right track, I was thinking of some of Merleau-Ponty's ideas, as I've just been reading a book which features them quite prominently. I'm still very much a realist, even a scientific realist, although Henotheist11https://www.blogger.com/profile/11379183579727346837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-6923417186258308992011-07-10T07:58:19.357-07:002011-07-10T07:58:19.357-07:00Philosophers make too much of the demarcation prob...Philosophers make too much of the demarcation problem. It is hard to demarcate life from non-life, but that doesn't mean there isn't a real difference. I think the main problem is that most people try to use a single non-vague demarcation criterion rather than see reality: a polydimensional space of quantitative differences, corners of which are the canonical cases of science/non-science.Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-15567359869778328972011-07-10T07:53:41.641-07:002011-07-10T07:53:41.641-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-39117859441440397062011-07-10T07:47:42.864-07:002011-07-10T07:47:42.864-07:00Is it me, or did this discussion get derailed alre...Is it me, or did this discussion get derailed already?<br /><br />On your final arguments about ontological naturalism, your push in a positive direction seems a lot like Merleau Ponty from his book Phenomenology of Perception. Did you really mean to talk about the world as having intentional structure? That seems a bit strange. Perhaps you meant the 'manifest image' of the world of Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-80873836999679068632011-06-28T10:44:25.931-07:002011-06-28T10:44:25.931-07:00From what I heard, the commitment scenario was the...From what I heard, the commitment scenario was the apostles themselves, and when Jesus was crucified instead of bringing about the end of the world, they became more committed and gradually came up with the resurrection story. Maybe I haven't read enough on the particulars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-61827771399386726722011-06-28T08:54:05.255-07:002011-06-28T08:54:05.255-07:00Also more on Loftus and CD
Moreover, cognitive di...<b>Also more on Loftus and CD</b><br /><br />Moreover, cognitive dissonance was one of the first counter theories I thought of when I got saved. I considered it because at the time I was a sociology major, and we had just read Leon Fetinger's When Prophesy Fails for some class. That was the work that established the theory of cognitive dissonance. I considered it as a counter to the Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-41122467633969585772011-06-28T05:56:51.573-07:002011-06-28T05:56:51.573-07:00J.D. excellent article. I appreciate it becasue it...J.D. excellent article. I appreciate it becasue it timely for me. I'm now involved in a two projects along similar lines.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-25219853168507508502011-06-28T05:55:51.374-07:002011-06-28T05:55:51.374-07:00I haven't read Lofuts book, and I don't me...I haven't read Lofuts book, and I don't mean to insult you, but I have to assume your rendition of what he says is accurate so I will assume so.<br /><br />First of all, the eschatology of the early is clearly put into Jesus mouth. Was Jesus really saying the world will end soon, or was the early chruch expecting to hear it so they didn't see anything wrong reflecting their Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-19127972703927109962011-06-27T18:27:53.654-07:002011-06-27T18:27:53.654-07:00I have put in ever possible keyword to find a resp...I have put in ever possible keyword to find a response to a particular argument, but nothing has come up. That argument is chapter 12 in Loftus's "The Christian Delusion." That chapter argues that Jesus was a doomsday prophet who predicted that the world would end very soon. When the world did not end, and he was crucified, the apostles used cognitive dissonance to come up with Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-59894670119738636222011-06-23T20:50:42.494-07:002011-06-23T20:50:42.494-07:00Good post!
Also, thanks for your past couple of p...Good post!<br /><br />Also, thanks for your past couple of posts on this VSI book as well Le Poidevin's <i>Agnosticism: VSI</i>.Patrick Chanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095377877712197984noreply@blogger.com