tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post1018507167325119238..comments2024-03-14T08:15:15.207-07:00Comments on CADRE Comments: "Story of the Empty Tomb, Dated Mid First Century," My Article Published in Defending The ResurrectionBKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-44840616337057072262015-07-25T12:24:41.822-07:002015-07-25T12:24:41.822-07:00Christian apologists use the alleged "fact&qu...Christian apologists use the alleged "fact" of an empty tomb as their trump card for evidence for the Resurrection.<br /> <br />Let's assume that the entire account in Matthew regarding Aramathea burying Jesus in his private tomb, the great stone in front of the door, and the Roman guards are all fact. Let's assume that on Sunday morning the women really did find an empty tomb.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-9139256462086545702015-05-05T10:17:19.123-07:002015-05-05T10:17:19.123-07:00Alternative Explanation for the Empty Tomb, #4:
M...Alternative Explanation for the Empty Tomb, #4:<br /><br />Martians done it!<br /><br />Late Saturday night, a Martian mothership hovers over the tomb of Jesus. The commander, a sinister fellow with one eye, commands five of his Martian soldiers to teleport down to the ground, enter the bodies of the Roman soldiers, roll back the stone, and take the body. The body is levitated into the mothershipGaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-72202323053662422172015-05-04T20:58:48.412-07:002015-05-04T20:58:48.412-07:00You have been brainwashed by an ancient middle-eas...You have been brainwashed by an ancient middle-eastern cult, my friend. It is a superstition, nothing more. I am trying to help you see that.<br /><br />Contact me on my blog if you would like to converse more:<br /><br />Escaping Christian FundamentalismGaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-32076249484586579052015-05-04T13:26:45.903-07:002015-05-04T13:26:45.903-07:00When I first read your latest comments, and especi...When I first read your latest comments, and especially when I saw your reference to John Loftus, I began to see where you are coming from. I have no desire to engage in endless discussions about the entire resurrection account, the accuracy of the Bible, etc. in a comment to a post that is several years old that few will read. Still, I want to leave you with a couple of thoughts.<br /><br />FirstBKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-80257981025072225772015-05-03T09:25:57.537-07:002015-05-03T09:25:57.537-07:00"Now, I don't have a text to prove that t..."Now, I don't have a text to prove that they did check the tomb either, but since it is more than reasonable to believe that they did check for the body, your argument from silence is interesting but unconvincing."<br /><br />But if we are going to base our beliefs on what is reasonable (which I believe is a good idea), which is more reasonable?<br /><br />1. The tomb was empty Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-69871713170898727502015-05-01T20:10:42.499-07:002015-05-01T20:10:42.499-07:00Why doesn't Luke mention any Guards at Jesus&#...Why doesn't Luke mention any Guards at Jesus' Tomb? <br /><br />Matthew is the only Gospel writer who mentions guards being stationed at Jesus' tomb to prevent the robbery of the body by Jesus' disciples. Many Christian apologists use Matthew's claim to say that with guards at the tomb, the only good explanation for the tomb being empty on Sunday morning is that a Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-13568783836238034022015-05-01T14:47:56.352-07:002015-05-01T14:47:56.352-07:00Let's say that you are correct and that the gu...Let's say that you are correct and that the guards did check the tomb when they showed up to the tomb sometime on the second day. And when they roll back the stone... the body was gone. Someone had moved or stolen the body the previous night when it was not guarded and not sealed.<br /><br />What would have happened then?<br /><br />Answer: the Jews would say that the disciples stole the Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-64869869743860139602015-05-01T13:50:21.736-07:002015-05-01T13:50:21.736-07:00So, let's review: you are saying that the Matt...So, let's review: you are saying that the Matthew account says that Jesus was lain in the tomb on the night of his crucifixion and the stone was rolled in front of the tomb. The account than adds that the next morning, some who were concerned that the body of Jesus might be stolen went to Pilate and asked to have the tomb guarded. That same day the tomb was "sealed" and a guard BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-90909351339590964922015-04-30T15:58:47.156-07:002015-04-30T15:58:47.156-07:00Sorry, I misstated my first sentence. The passage...Sorry, I misstated my first sentence. The passage doesn't say the guards did not roll back the tomb but neither does it say they did.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-69118441777107411912015-04-30T15:14:01.178-07:002015-04-30T15:14:01.178-07:00Where did I say they did?
The passage only says t...Where did I say they did?<br /><br />The passage only says that the guards came to the tomb and sealed the stone. It doesn't say that they rolled the stone away, checked the body, rolled the stone back into place again, and THEN sealed the tomb.<br /><br />Bottom line: your "empty tomb" evidence is hanging by a thread, my friend. The most likely explanation for ANY empty tomb Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-20200917871909358572015-04-30T13:31:11.958-07:002015-04-30T13:31:11.958-07:00Sorry, maybe I missed something. Where does it say...Sorry, maybe I missed something. Where does it say that they did not make certain that the body was in the tomb prior to sealing the tomb and positioning the guard? Was that stated in the text or are you just assuming?BKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967809861892681780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-91189813388950166222015-04-30T11:23:14.439-07:002015-04-30T11:23:14.439-07:00Jesus' Tomb was not Guarded or Sealed the enti...Jesus' Tomb was not Guarded or Sealed the entire First Night!<br /><br />Holy Grave Robbers!<br /><br /> I had never heard of this until today: How many Christians are aware that Jesus’ grave was unguarded AND unsecured the entire first night after his crucifixion??? Isn’t that a huge hole in the Christian explanation for the empty tomb?? Notice in this quote from Matthew chapter 27 belowGaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519721717265344702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-7305711949557295732010-11-05T19:45:32.492-07:002010-11-05T19:45:32.492-07:00Sometimes my comment shows up on the blog, sometim...Sometimes my comment shows up on the blog, sometimes it was URL too large, sometimes I post it and nothing shows up after I refresh the blog. I don't know what's going through or not. And I edit my comments each time, so use the last one I submitted and delete the rest pleaseEdwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-65434003051622930682010-11-05T19:40:32.849-07:002010-11-05T19:40:32.849-07:00"J.P. Holding (Tekton Apologetics) is despise..."J.P. Holding (Tekton Apologetics) is despised by atheists. They hate him, they go out of their way to heap abuse on him." <br /><br />Whoa. <br /><br />It takes two to tango. <br /><br />And J.P. has been in knock down verbal brawls with fellow Christians as well as "atheists." Look up Alpha Omega Ministries, Rev. James White's ministry, and his interactions with J.P. by Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-58368302707222896422010-11-05T19:35:16.098-07:002010-11-05T19:35:16.098-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-35078459511069968872010-11-05T19:31:08.340-07:002010-11-05T19:31:08.340-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363362.post-72953135426943565772010-11-05T19:28:29.660-07:002010-11-05T19:28:29.660-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.com